Which home charger will you choose for your new Kona or Niro

Discussion in 'Hyundai Kona Electric' started by EnerG, Dec 1, 2018.

  1. EnerG

    EnerG Active Member

    No, I think you were right the Fist time :eek:

    In my case I was lucky enough to catch that builder of my house was cheap'ing out and installing a 100A service so I had them upgrade it to a 200A as a condition of sale.
     
  2. GL Ontario

    GL Ontario Member

    Installed chargepoint charger. The DCC supports 32 Amps. Accorging to the chargepoint app the Kona hss been consistently charging at 7.3 kw ( I have been charging from approx 15%/20% to 80%)
     
  3. EnerG

    EnerG Active Member

    Could you please link me to this. I found nothing on Wallmart.ca.

    I've just installed a new 50A 14-50R circuit and am waiting for inspection and will pick up a new charger soon. I am leaning toward buying the Juicebox even though their cable management is non existant.

    I have been lucky enough to get through a month using the 120V trickle charger. Today is the first day I felt there was not enough range to catch the goose with only 230kms left.
     
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  4. GPM432

    GPM432 Active Member

    Probably got in the USA it's on their site $549
     
  5. No offense taken. I did my homework and I definitely needed to do the upgrade. But I would point out that a 125 amp service doesn't mean you're good to 300 amps. What you need to do to figure out your amp load is figure out the watt usage for your house. That means you take everything in the house by the number of watts it draws and make a big list. Then you make your load assumptions. Rule of thumb is your first 10,000 watts is 100% utilization. Everything else is 40%.

    You can then figure out your amp load by taking your total watt load and dividing it by the voltage on each line. For example, if your dryer is 3,000 watts and it is running on a 220 line, its amp load is 13.6 amps.

    And so on and so forth. So when I did the math, my amp load was up around 110 amps on a 125 amp panel. There is a margin of error built in so yes, the panel might be able to carry more amp load but should it?

    So while I appreciate you looking out for me, I got one of the best electricians in the business looking into this (I've dealt with him for years) and in my case, the upgrade is necessary. Please check with your electrician before deciding to overload a panel.
     
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  7. MelCdn

    MelCdn New Member

    My electrician and I looked at this as I only have 100amp service. Ultimately we decided to install an adjustable 30a (with the ability to dial down the amps) and see how it goes before committing to a service upgrade. So far I have had it running at 30a without issue.
     
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  8. KonaTom

    KonaTom Active Member

    What is an adjustable 30a breaker. I have only 100 amps too, and would like to avoid installing a new service. Using trickle charge so far and it is enough with the occasional level 2 or level 3 charge
     
  9. MelCdn

    MelCdn New Member

    Some of the chargers (I have Flo X5), allow you to adjust the amperage flowing through the charger downwards. So 20amps etc.
     
  10. electriceddy

    electriceddy Well-Known Member

    The actual voltage of a single phase system in North America is 240v (line to line) and 120v (line to Neutral) which calculates your 3kW dryer to 12.5A. (3000w/240v) Using ohms law, your dryer has a resistance type heat element of 19.2 ohms (240v/12.5A).
    If you are unfortunate enough to be serviced from 2 legs of a 120/208v 3 phase system, than your 19.2 ohm dryer will draw 10.83A (208v/19.2 ohms)
    The resulting power consumed would than be 2252.64 w (10.83*208)
    Just trying to keep the #'s consistent
     
  11. Oilberta

    Oilberta Member

    My panel shows two 100-amp main breakers. If so, does this mean I've got 200 amp service to my 21-year old house ? The left "bank" has nine unused slots; the other ten are 15 amp breakers. On the right bank, five unused slots, twelve 15 amp single breakers; four 15 amp pairs, pinned together; a single 30-amp pinned pair; and a single 40-amp pair (pinned together).

    The portable / level 1 charger running at the 12 amp setting is fine for now.

    200 amp_Q.JPG
     
  12. Shawn Schinkel

    Shawn Schinkel Active Member

    No, your panel is 100amp service. The reason there are two breakers tied together is so the two lines can produce 240volts for large appliances... and electric car chargers :)
     
  13. Shawn Schinkel

    Shawn Schinkel Active Member

    It will usually say somewhere on the panel tub what the loadcentre is rated for. My old panel had 100amp service but was rated for 125amp, meaning I could have had the service lines to the house increased and changed the main breaker to 125amp. I chose to do a complete upgrade to 200amp as I was also planning on building a shop.
     
  14. electriceddy

    electriceddy Well-Known Member

    This is a 100A combination panel, a 200A Siemens eq type breaker looks like this:
    https://www.ebay.ca/i/263503033861?chn=ps&dispItem=1
    You may be Ok with an EVSE on your xisting 100A service if you have natural gas heat and a gas range , see an electrical contractor to do a calculated load for you
     
  15. XtsKonaTrooper

    XtsKonaTrooper Active Member

    I know the juicepoint says its outdoor rated.
    Woyld it be okay to put it in a box to keep it, out if the elements?
     
  16. Yes, it is made for outdoor use. The JuiceBox is NEMA 4 rated for extreme weather. There are other chargers that are outdoor rated, but only NEMA 3 rated, meaning they can allow water & dust to inflitrate the interior of the casing under some weather conditions.

    The ChargePoint Home, for instance is "outdoor rated" but is only NEMA 3 rated. The JuiceBox, Seimens VersaCharge, ClipperCreek and Flo units are all NEMA 4 rated. If you're installing it outdoors, I would highly recommend getting one that is NEMA 4 rated for extreme weather.
     
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  17. XtsKonaTrooper

    XtsKonaTrooper Active Member

    Right on . I think i will still put it in a box.
    I already use the box for my ioniq charger which im changing fir the Kona.
    I like taking extra precautions when dealing with electricity, prolly cuz of putting my hand in a light socket, when i was a kid. Hehehe (long story)
     
  18. Ok, but if you do make sure it's not in direct sunlight if you live in an area where it get very hot. The units were not designed to be inside a box that will trap the heat, and not allow airflow to cool them. If your charging, and it's 90+ degrees outside, and the charger is in direct sunlight and inside a box where the air cannot flow through, you run the risk of thermal overload. Just be careful.
     
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  19. XtsKonaTrooper

    XtsKonaTrooper Active Member

    I generally never charge during the day.
    But goid points.
    Thanks
     

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