Issue with Honda Sensing Adaptative cruise control

Discussion in 'Clarity' started by bbb0bbb, May 15, 2018.

  1. ZedFez

    ZedFez Member

    Yes obviously some accidents will be prevented. Please don’t say “arguement” because we’re not discussing the Tesla in this thread, nor was driver abuse/misuse being brought up. Feeling here is simply that the ACC in the Clarity should have been better tuned for certain traffic situations before releasing the product.
     
  2. Steven B

    Steven B Active Member

    There isn't sufficient difference in the icons for ACC on and ACC off; hopefully they will remedy this in the future.
     
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  3. Atkinson

    Atkinson Active Member

    As long as you broached the subject, if Amazon made an Alexa that looks and sounds like HAL 9000 including some classic quotes thrown in, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
    In a car, it would be over the top.
     
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  4. ZedFez

    ZedFez Member

    Me too!!! Me too!!!
     
  5. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member

    Have you tried asking Alexa to open the pod bay doors?
     
  6. ZedFez

    ZedFez Member

    HAL: I’m sorry, insightman. I’m afraid I can’t do that. :)
     
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  7. jdonalds

    jdonalds Well-Known Member

    From the beginning I've thought the Clarity safety features to be weak and less capable than they could be. I don't expect an update but some new algorithms are sorely needed.

    The car makes to many abrupt breaking decisions where not needed.

    On the other hand we had to drive for s few days without the systems (multiple warnings issue) and really missed those features.

    I find that on long trips, on straight level roads, the ACC does a pretty good job. We will be making one of those drives tomorrow 675 miles.

    I took the advice of others and use sport mode with HV and ACC which works much better than ECON/HV. It re-accelerates much better.

    We got 45 mpg on the first 675 mile leg of this trip.
     
  8. KentuckyKen

    KentuckyKen Well-Known Member

    I never use Sport Mode; I’m always in Econ. I have found that ACC will accelerate faster by taking Econ off though. So if there’s a car behind me, I do a one push of Econ button and then one push back on later. If I were in heavy traffic and needing to do it frequently, I’d use Sport Mode then like you.
     
  9. weave

    weave Active Member

    Maybe that's why I haven't seen too many problems. I figure if I'm going into HV mode, might as well do Sport too -- so what if I shave a MPG or two off of mid 40s. Think I can afford that! :D And the sticky regen paddles is a major plus too.
     
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  10. Odobo

    Odobo Active Member

    So when you say it works best on long straight road... I take that you don't mean freeway but some country road? Just curious
     
  11. KentuckyKen

    KentuckyKen Well-Known Member

    Thanks a lot guys, now every time I’m in Econ instead of Sport, I feel a little more of my long lost youth slipping away! Sigh...
     
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  12. Atkinson

    Atkinson Active Member

    Just what do you think you are doing, Dave?
    Dave, I really think I'm entitled to an answer to that question.
     
  13. jdonalds

    jdonalds Well-Known Member

    Freeway. We are currently driving on HW5 going north through the central valley of California. It's straight and flat for hundreds of miles.
     
  14. Odobo

    Odobo Active Member

    Hmm... Can you tell me what didn't it do right on a curvy part of the freeway for you?

    I drive 680 280 and 101 in the Bay area, other than on the interchange I found the ACC works good most most situation other than in short burst (in traffic on freeway, cars get up to 50+ in short section then stop again) but that's mostly is the need to pick up speed and brake quickly again.... And most of the time I had to chance ACC on interchange was because there wasnt a car in front and I set the speed too high so I have to brake for the curve.

    Other than that it's the fading mark on the freeway that makes lane keep assistant lost the lane but that's not the ACC....
     
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  15. JCA

    JCA Active Member

    Bumping this thread because it was helpful to me -- my first attempt at ACC cruise the car just kept gaining on the truck in front until I aborted the experiment by braking :) And the interval button didn't seem to do anything, though LKAS seemed to work. Long-pressing the interval button switched the mode.

    Honda has made it kind of confusing -- my 2007 Civic has a green box with "Cruise Main" whenever the main switch is on, so it didn't occur to me that "Cruise Mode" wasn't just the same master indicator, especially since it still shows "ACC" in the mode that isn't, well, adaptive. And the information on switching modes is after 14 pages that only talk about ACC mode. But searching here saved me an embarrassing visit to the dealership!
     
  16. TeeVee

    TeeVee New Member

    One problem I have with ACC is that it will not pick up the next car quickly enough when the one in front changes lanes. It then accelerates and I have to manually apply the brakes. I did not want to risk it not applying emergency brakes and even if it did emergency braking, that's not a fun feeling.

    So the ACC radar does not detect two cars ahead like the radar in some other cars?
     
  17. S L .

    S L . Member

    Depends on how far the cars are ahead of you.



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  18. KentuckyKen

    KentuckyKen Well-Known Member

    Honda Sense ACC does not bounce the radar under the immediate car to pick up two cars ahead. And it sometimes fails to pick up cars that change lanes. It has been pretty good about not getting fooled on curves for me though. It’s definitely a driver ASSIST tool and not anywhere near self driving so you have to keep an eye on it.
     
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  19. RogerB

    RogerB Active Member

    Maybe I'm in a cantankerous mood today, but are people really expecting fully automated cars? It sounds like other companies have implemented certain features better, but with no industry standard, some variation is to be expected. One should be responsible (here I go again) for becoming familiar with abilities of the car they are driving and respond to them appropriately.

    I'd love for my car to have detailed EV/HV information, high def turn and backup cameras, an infotainment system using a version of Android that is less than 5 years old, etc., etc., but since it doesn't, I have adjusted my expectations and adapted. I'll wait the extra half second for my screen to show the camera when I turn on the blinker. I'll wait the extra second for each touch screen press to register. I'll pay close attention for vehicles stopped in front of me, the same way I have since I started driving. Car companies have limited resources to devote to the design of their vehicles and what features they are willing to add at a certain price point. I'd much rather Honda have put the money into the battery and associated equipment. It's not like we paid extra for a trim level to get the driver assist features.
     
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  20. stacey burke

    stacey burke Active Member

    I don't trust it! And I would not trust it on any car today. I use ACC all of the time but when I see cars stopped or slowing down I use the regain and of course the ACC turns off. When I need to start back up to speed I use the "gas" and then press resume. Works great for me in all types of traffic.
     

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