Tesla MagicDock upto around 75 locations now.

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  1. SouthernDude

    SouthernDude Active Member

    Yes, this is what i've been saying. The drive train isn't the problem its everything else. This will improve with time but it kind of stinks that several car companies seemingly abandoned some things learned about cars because EVs offered a different liberty with design.

    Totally agree. We have a better standard now because the gov never imposed CCS onto the market. All the people going on and on about how NACS was better should be happy now. There are still chademo plugs getting built because of gov funding too.

    thankfully this seems to be changing too. several states have now removed their new nuclear bans/moratoriums. there seems to be a lot more support for nuclear energy now. If this were allowed to happen in the 90s, things would be much farther along now.
     
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  3. Keith Smith

    Keith Smith Active Member

    Circling back to Magic Dock, I think as you stated, this is going to be pointless/deprecated longer term, though short term I think the CCS plug will go the way of CHADEMO. I fully expect existing CCS Tesla's will get a kit from somewhere to convert to NACS. I would love to see similar kits for existing vehicles. It really should not be difficult to do, it's like swapping an outlet on your wall with a new one, but in the mean time everyone will just throw an adapter in their vehicle.

    The historical re-writes of safety issues are always the problem. You are much more likely to die in a car than in a plane (per mile traveled). Drastically more people are killed and injured in the production of fossil fuels per energy unit, than have been harmed in the production of electricity with Nuclear power, yet somehow every incident with the latter is billed as an end-of-the-world scenario. Refinery catches on fire, Exxon Valdez dumps oil in the ocean, Drilling platforms off the coast, people losing arms and legs and life operating the machinery, people dying in coal mines, wow that's too bad, make sure they pay. Japan has an earthquake that knocks out a reactor, spits a little radiation, a few people are killed, a very small number of people might be exposed to something that might cause a problem 40 years from now, and the world is going to come to an end if it ever happens again. I do not understand the irrational fear.

    If we can get over this fear hump, we can build out plenty of energy infrastructure, from all available sources, and with improvements in battery tech/cost that are not too far down the road, we can have charging stations with big batteries that fill up on nuclear electricity at night, and supplement with solar during the day, and use fossil fuels like Natural Gas to cover for one-off demands. Tesla is a big player on the latter part of that scenario, in addition to the simple power stations, they are putting up large stations with solar panels and batteries as economics permit. They really are trying to get this right it's very cool, not there quite yet but heading in the right direction. Not so much for the other players that I have seen.
     
  4. SouthernDude

    SouthernDude Active Member

    It may be possible to retrofit NACS onto an existing car with CCS. I have no idea. I guess all that would involve is creating an adapter specific for each car model then retrofitting it in the car. Shouldn't be too difficult with 3d printing now.

    People have always had an irrational fear of more rare events. I think part of it is the perception of control. A plane crash feels scarier than a car crash because the person crashing is not in control of the plane. Same goes with a genetic problem vs things like type 2 diabetes or obesity. The environmental movement has been using anti-nuclear rhetoric since the beginning - "I support nuclear energy 93 million miles away".


    Since its still early in the market, the most effective model will take time to develop. The same goes with the amount of necessary infrastructure. If battery energy density continues to improve, it just makes the charging situation even easier.
     

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