For those involved in the Buyback program: what are your plans after?

Discussion in 'Hyundai Kona Electric' started by Mattsburgh, May 25, 2021.

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  1. ehatch

    ehatch Active Member

    I will agree with this as the northeast got a bit of a spring heat wave.When my Kona electric wasn't acting up,I saw the AC didn't impact the consumption too much.At highway speeds of around 120kmh/74mph maybe 10km / 6 miles lost?
     
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  3. ehatch

    ehatch Active Member

    Watch the Ford charging curve, EVDAVE has a emustang,and did a road trip to discover at about 70%,it dives to about 11kW charging speed:mad: When the Kona electric works,hopefully gets a software update to increase its charging curve.It has maintained about 24-40kW charging speed at around 70-85% .
     
  4. I'm wondering why no one is mentioning the Honda PHEVs or hybrids?
     
  5. If the current bill passes and includes $10,000 tax credit for US-made EVs and $12,500 for union-made EVs, the Bolt EUV and Tesla Model 3 standard plus move to the top of the line for me. I already "built" a Model 3 and now I'm just waiting for the stars to align. ;)
     
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  6. Danhen

    Danhen Active Member

    Our tax dollars at work subsidizing the corrupt UAW. Ugh.
     
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  8. I'm in New Jersey and it's a 2019
     
  9. They just don't interest me and I've owned 4 Hondas in my life. They haven't kept up in my opinion. Also if I'm going to have 1 vehicle it'll be an SUV not a car like the Clarity. Too low to the ground and too hard to get in and out of as I age. If they made a PHEV CR-V I'd definitely consider it.
     
  10. FloridaSun

    FloridaSun Well-Known Member

    So far, I have driven about 1500 miles with the Model Y and I can state with 100% certainty that the Kona does get more range around town than the Model Y.
    At Highway speeds, the Model Y is extremely efficient with the AC off.. I'd say that at 70 mph with the AC off you will get about 280 mile range with the Model Y while you get about 240 miles with the Kona.. The difference gets smaller with the AC on but the Y still gets more Highway range.. It does have a drag coefficient of 0.23, one of the lowest in the industry while the Kona has 0.28.
     
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  11. Curious BlueKonaEV, why you chose a Tesla vs. getting another $7,500 tax credit. I'm really torn. I'm loving the Model 3 but that $7,500 tax credit is so enticing. Just wanted to pick your brain why you went with Tesla. This whole choosing my next car is driving me nuts because now there are so many options in about the same price range.
     
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  13. FloridaSun

    FloridaSun Well-Known Member

    1) Supercharger access.. We have family in South Texas (McAllen/Mission area) and there are no non Tesla fast charging options and I'm not going to hang out at the BMW Dealer's Level 2 charger for 9 hours until the car is charged.. Flying there is too expensive for 4 persons with luggage and then we would need a rental car there.. I would also have to drive 100 miles extra to get there as I don't want to visit the world's most expensive DC Fast charger in Corpus Cristi.. $135 for 40kw of charge.. This means with a non Tesla car I would have to drive via San Antonio which is 100 miles extra. With 80% charge limit, I couldn't even make the last leg of the trip which is over 200 miles between fast chargers..
    2) Towing rating. I don't know of any non Tesla EV's that is rated for towing. Mach E is NOT rated for towing. If the car wasn't rated for towing, I would have to keep a separate ICE car for towing and I did not want that.. I still would have to pay insurance and maintenance on the gas car. We no longer own any ICE cars since I got the Model Y.. Sold our old Minivan that I used to tow our trailer.. Model Y tows great!!
     
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  14. SeanH

    SeanH Active Member

    The VW ID.4 and Volvo XC40 Recharge are both rated for towing, but yeah it looks like there are a good number of chargers along the route to Texas, and then it drops off as you go south in Texas.
     
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  15. Well... I just ordered a Tesla Model 3. Bu-bye Hyundai.
     
  16. FloridaSun

    FloridaSun Well-Known Member

    Didn't know that they can tow. ID 4 is not an option after I had the chance to sit in the rear seat of one.. Not much more legroom than the Kona and no frunk. XC40 only has 208 mile range.. Not enough..If it wasn't for the Supercharger Network and of I wouldn't need towing, I would go for the Mach E. Sharp looking car!
     
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  17. FloridaSun

    FloridaSun Well-Known Member

    Congrats! You won't regret it.. I hope you used a referral code.. You would get 1000 free miles if you do.. Mine is in

    http://ts.la/olivier49569
     
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  18. The Audi e-tron is rated for towing as well.
     
  19. FloridaSun

    FloridaSun Well-Known Member

    The range on the e-tron is way too low for me to consider it. Used e-trons can be bought for a huge discount which makes them interesting for anyone wanting to save money..
     
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  20. Thanks. They let me add it. You get miles too, right? Or can you only do it once?
     
  21. FloridaSun

    FloridaSun Well-Known Member

    Both get 1000 supercharger miles.. Once you placed your order, you also get a referral code that you can pass on to others and if they get delivery, both you and the referred party get 1000 miles.. I'm expecting to refer about 3 more people in coming weeks.. One of our best friends is almost ready to order :D
     
  22. I drove a Bolt EUV yesterday. It's a credible Kona EV replacement.

    The handling was a pleasant surprise: about as nimble as the Kona, and much better than the Mach-E. It has true one pedal driving: stop and start with just the accelerator pedal. I found the seat a little less comfortable than the Kona, but the 8-way power adjustments helped.

    Features in the fully equipped top Limited trim are almost as good as the Kona Ultimate. Both have rear proximity alert, rain-sensing wipers, adaptive cruise control and the usual automatic safety features. The Bolt EUV adds a 360 degree parking camera, and the inside rear view mirror can switch to display the wide angle rear camera view. It comes with a 120/240 volt charge cord that delivers up to 7.2 kW, making a separate EVSE unnecessary. But the Bolt lacks HUD and cornering lights, and GM still hasn't twigged to Homelink, an omission Volt and Bolt owners have been lamenting for ten years. The blind spot alert is unaccountably only visual; no warning beep.

    The instrument cluster is configurable and useful, with a digital speed readout larger than the Kona's and not blocked by the steering wheel like the Mach-E's. That and the option to display the speed limit from the nav database would make up for the lack of an HUD, but only if the nav/sunroof/sound option is purchased. I like the display of instantaneous battery power in kW.

    The EUV has just started arriving this month (June) but it looks like there will be plenty of supply. The dealer had a $4k markup sticker but the salesman thought they would be selling at MSRP within weeks. The fully equipped top Limited trim with all packages lists for $43,190, but I'd skip the Super Cruise prep option (lane keeping on pre-programmed highways), taking it down to $40,900, and probably the sun roof, nav and sound system, so $38,495. Android Auto uses the full 10.2" display so a nav system isn't necessary. Add $7,500 because GM no longer gets the federal tax credit :(, but deals might become available soon, and Costco Auto offers a $1000 incentive on 2022 Bolts ($3000 on 2021's) through August 2.

    I was leaning toward the Bolt EUV at $8,000 less than the '21 Kona, but the tax credit, HUD, and slightly better safety warnings are swinging me back toward the Kona. At least, that's how it stands today.
     
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  23. Your #1 is also mine for driving the Washington State peninsula. There are no non-Tesla super charging stations making it virtually impossible to drive all electric beyond Port Angeles. The coast is a charging desert.
     

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