Wired Interviews Gate's about his new green washing book.

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  1. 101101

    101101 Well-Known Member

    How to Avoid a Climate Disaster- wired interviewed interviewed Bill Gates about his new book

    Here are the highlights:

    Carbon remains cheaper as a source of energy because its negative impacts – or “externalities” – aren’t priced in. Governments subsidise fossil fuels because they are reliable and proven.

    No, its fossil fuels that are more expensive without subsidies- trying to spread the lie.

    While wealthy countries might be able to pay a premium for these zero carbon options, that isn’t currently possible for some fast-growing nations in Asia, Africa and South America. The green premium needs to be so low as to make sense to switch.

    No, green is much cheaper for the developing world too.

    While some advocates of change suggest that the target should be 2030, Gates believes that’s unrealistic –

    Ridiculous fossil fuels are destroying the US economy in particular.

    The fact that I’m running an open-source model to test whether these aggressive goals are achievable, it blows the mind – why am I funding this model for these electric grids, which is the most obvious thing to do when you look at climate change?

    These goals of going green even by 2030 are obviously totally achievable but he even tries to throw shade over 2050- and its obviously not because he's just conservative its because obviously he does want a transition to green and is actively trying to prevent it.
    Trying to slow it down is the same exact thing as trying to outright stop it.

    But I would say, if you can get super-cheap green hydrogen, it sits in terms of the industrial economy at the peak. So, if you pencil in ridiculously low-cost hydrogen, then I can tell you how to make clean fertiliser and clean steel, and even clean aviation fuel.

    Here is his shilling for the natural gas industry which he is surely invested in to a huge amount and pied pipered a lot of other people into with obvious disastrous consequences.

    So everybody's getting together and talking about the short-term reductions, but the only areas you can make short-term reductions are electric cars and using solar and wind for electricity generation. That's less than 30 per cent of the game – 70 per cent is steel, cement, aviation, land use... People aren’t doing anything about those. If you want to get to a goal, you should start working on the hard things, not just on the easy things. I'm not saying the easy things are easy, they're just relatively easy.

    Here he tries his usual tactic of trying to say only easy trivial stuff that isn't that impact-full like electric cars is being addressed and all the important stuff must go to his dog whistle hydrogen natural gas continuation of Enron.
     
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  3. 101101

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    • There was an area in he article where Gates improved markedly. He used his 10 breakthroughs away language which was usually used to FUD green and cast shade on Green for the benefit of fossil fuels and applied that to hydrogen and said it was 10 breakthroughs away. And then he even got specific and mentioned the possibly unsolvable challenges economic challenges with bulk hydrogen storage. Yes a leak rate of total loss in 5 years (compared with batteries over 100 years now) and where you have to pay to keep it cryogenically chilled otherwise it will explode and then store a liquid under pressure (imagine an in-compressible super chilled liquid under pressure!) and then it will embrittle you your pressure hulls and pipelines so for instance NG pipelines can't really be used to transport it without retrofit and then constant risk of rupture. But the bs around hydrogen never stops. The thoroughly discredited IAEA is now saying green hydrogen is set to be cheaper than blue hydrogen by 2050 which is a way of saying we should tolerate super dirty and super expensive blue hydrogen until then with its long tail pipe Paris accord killing scam. If Gates is this bad on climate you think he is any better on vaccines. You'd be wrong if you did. All you have to do is look at the public policy and historical experience of Japan to see how wrong he has been on that.
     
  4. 101101

    101101 Well-Known Member

    Ray Dalio is now saying the sky is falling which him amounts to saying divest your stocks. Sounds like Gates right. Both are saying the sky is falling. But people will notice that Dalio loaded up on natural gas around this type last year. So both are saying dump stocks or to read between the lines dump tech stocks. Is Gates selling his Microsoft stock? Is he selling his natural gas stock? People aren't going to dump tech to put it in commodity natural gas because NG is lame. If they move they will probably put it in Bitcoin. The Taiwan chip shortage seemed very curious. Trump on his way out normalized relations with Taiwan which was designed to upset China or temporarily sabotage the relationship. Taiwan needed an SOS like the chip shortage in that moment to call attention to itself for security. Already its plants were moving out of the country to places like Arizona where there is plentiful solar (cheapest energy source,) and also cheap land and lax right to work rules yet proximity to CA. The water shortage story in Taiwan wasn't a credible reason because they saw it coming and the amount of water they were down by was less than what a medium sized CA county used per day on sewage back in the 1980s. Its was a nice green seeming narrative but it was the kind of thing that is used to bailout fossil fuels or NG in this case. It was predictable Taiwan would throttle especially if someone whispered in their ear. Other examples likely were early Bitcoin's programmed in early FF load to get buy in from FF players (which has programatically leveled off and will apparently not increase as it goes to green) and Fukashima. So wag the dog this looked like another attempt to bail out people like Dalio, Gates, Buffet and Charles Koch. But how bright was investing in NG last year (?)- really going to listen to or trust the advice of someone who did that? What these people are good at is begging the government behind the scenes for self enriching policies but there comes a time when they get ignored because core government and technocratic policy has moved on. The PNAC is over it was a D- plan that got the country through a couple decades but its been replaced by concern about AI. AI is the new arms race, the new center of security think. As head of the Russian state said who ever solves AI first will rule- of course it may be the AI that rules but it is a grail quest search for a magic lamp.
     
  5. SouthernDude

    SouthernDude Active Member

    @Domenick Can you put this in off topics? thanks
     
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