Which home charger will you choose for your new Kona or Niro

Discussion in 'Hyundai Kona Electric' started by EnerG, Dec 1, 2018.

  1. electriceddy

    electriceddy Well-Known Member

    Looks good enough, although you may want to use 2 hole pvc straps instead of those 1 hole emt metal straps for cord support , as the metal will eventually cut into the cord.;)
     
  2. XtsKonaTrooper

    XtsKonaTrooper Active Member

    Cool i got mine too, not setup yet.
    Where did you get the outlet box for it?
     
    Lex23 likes this.
  3. Dan Pasch

    Dan Pasch New Member

    looks like the same one i got from amazon, mine is a
    Talon LGP1S 50-Amp Enclosed, Outdoor Rated, Receptacle
     
    XtsKonaTrooper likes this.
  4. apu

    apu Well-Known Member

    Yes, I figured that might be a problem and was I just going to wrap the conduit straps in black tape but wouldn't you know it that I couldn't find a roll for the life of me and I must have gazillions lying around :). Nonetheless, great idea idea about the PVC straps, thanks.

    I got it on Amazon
     
  5. EnerG

    EnerG Active Member

    Linky ?
     
  6. XtsKonaTrooper

    XtsKonaTrooper Active Member

    SkookumPete likes this.
  7. Wildeyed

    Wildeyed Well-Known Member

    I got a nice holster with my Sun Country charger that locks the cable solidly in place and does a great job protecting it from the weather.
     
  8. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    I went with a 26 amp Mustart Charger. I only got a 150 amp panel and the 26 amp charger is on a 30 amp circuit. Installed the outlet right beside the panel myself in 40 minutes. Total cost under $400. I didn't care for Wifi ebabled charger as I can control the charging remotely anyways with the bluelink app.

    20190703_223829.jpg 20190705_235632.jpg
     
  9. Dan Pasch

    Dan Pasch New Member

    you know you probably could have went with a 32 amp and just put in a 40 amp breaker, it all depends on actual load. i have a 100 amp panel an have no issues, but i also dont try to run everything all at the same time
     
  10. electriceddy

    electriceddy Well-Known Member

    Location?
    No offence intended but I sure wish more people would location into profile, get tired of asking the same question.
    If you are in a cool location and heating with gas then you are probably OK as far as the electrical service calculated load.
    Just keep in mind that 32A continuous *240V = 7680W which is 40% of the total continuous load that a 100A *240V (24000 W*.8 = 19,200 W) single phase residential service can safely provide.
    Other continuous loads would be Heat/A/C (the greater of the 2), instant HW, spa etc with demand factors for H/W storage tank and range (in Canada it is classified as any load that will operate for more than 1 hour in a 2 hour period)
     
  11. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    I may have been ok with the 32 amp charger anyways.. However, I believe that according to code, you can't have a NEMA14-50 outlet on a 40 amp breaker.. It must have a 50 amp breaker. The difference in charging speed is relatively small. The 26 amp charger is plenty to get my charged up over night especially as I usually only charge to 80 percent unless I plan a longer trip. If I will ever need a little faster charging speed, I'll just change out the NEMA 10-30 to a 14-50 and buy the 32 amp version of the charger. So far, I'm happy with the MUSTART charger.. It was cheap and works flawless..
     
  12. EVRIGREEN

    EVRIGREEN New Member

    I got one that plugs into my dryer outlet. Not the most powerful but does the job and I didn’t have to install anything extra. CoMes with up to 50ft cord. Takes 12-15 hours to charge but that works for me.
     
    electriceddy likes this.
  13. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    My charger uses a 30 amp dryer type outlet too NEMA 10-30.. It is 26 amps and charges at 6.1 kwh.. 11 hours for a full charge.
     
  14. electriceddy

    electriceddy Well-Known Member

    Supposed to not exceed 24 A (30*.8) #10AWG c/w 2p 30A O/C
    The wire will handle 26A all day , the breaker won't. Will eventually wear out the overload portion of the breaker-hopefully
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2019
  15. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    The charger I have plugs into NEMA 10-30 and to-30 is a 30 amp outlet. Never tripped the breaker.. If it ever does, I'll go with a 40 amp breaker.. 5 mins work to swap it out..
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2019
  16. electriceddy

    electriceddy Well-Known Member

    I would assume then that you ran #8(50A) wire thru that 1/2" pvc 90 (tight fit)
    The load is considered as continuous as your NEC 625.41 states:
    https://iaeimagazine.org/magazine/2016/07/19/100-vs-80-choosing-the-right-ocpd-solution/
    In Canada a continuous load is one that draws for more than 1 hour in a 2 hour period, in the States it is considered continuous if draws 3 hours or more.
    When sizing a supply circuit for an EVSE, the proper method is to take its maximum rating and multiply it by 1.25 to size the over current device and wire accordingly.
    Example- 32 A EVSE @240V
    32*1.25=40
    So this EVSE should be fed with #8<50 A> wire on a 2P 40 A breaker for maximum protection even though you could still use Table 13 value and feed it with a 2P 50A breaker for minimum protection.
    If your EVSE is rated at 26A then
    26*1.25=32.5A - The breaker should be 40A and the wire #8<50>
    (Branch circuits) - without EVMS . Only pure resistive loads can have the wire rating less than the O/C device CEC 24th edition 2018 Rule #62-114 sub-rule 8
    and of course welders and motors, single phase (all types)motors where the wire is 1.25*FLA and go up, and using a breaker for O/C 2.5*FLA and go down as per T29
    Arc welders wire depending on duty cycle and O/C = 2X rated primary current max.
    EVSE demand factors may be reduced for feeders and services by utilizing T38
    or by using EVMS, 8-106 Subrule 10 and 11 (new 2018)
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2019
  17. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    I believe that it is #8 wire.. I actually used the individual red, black and white wires themselves as I didn't need the ground wire as the NEMA 10-30 does not use a ground wire. The entire #8 wire by itself would not have fit through the 1/2 inch conduit but the individual 3 wires did. I will upgrade the breaker to 40 amps..
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2019
  18. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    Changed out the breaker to 40 amp.. I should be good now.. Looking at my chargers display, it shows that it is only pulling 24.6 amps and not the 26 amps the charger is supposed to pull.
     
  19. Bugblndr

    Bugblndr Member

    I also went with a Morec Level 2 32A charger. I printed my own holster. Just had the electrical run on Saturday from the far side of my house, now have to wait another 11 days for the car.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    apu, R P and XtsKonaTrooper like this.
  20. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    cool! did you download the specs for the holster or did you design it yourself?
     

Share This Page