When will GM start to sell cars in Europe again?

Discussion in 'General Motors' started by Benz, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. Benz

    Benz Member

    There was a period of about a decade that cars from the Chevrolet brand were on sale in Europe, but since a few years that is not the case anymore. Because GM had decided to not sell any Chevrolet cars in Europe anymore.

    But now GM has sold the Opel (and Vauxhall) brand to the French PSA.

    Will GM re-introduce Chevrolet in Europe in the near future?
     
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  2. facile

    facile New Member

    If PSA group are not too stupid, they must have included a clause in their sale contract that keeps GM off Europe for a few years.
     
  3. Benz

    Benz Member

    I think that it would be pretty stupid on the part of GM to agree with such a clause.
     
  4. facile

    facile New Member

    Maybe. They agreed or not depending on the money at stake. They stopped selling Chevys years before the deal with PSA, so if they could get a few more dollars for staying like this say five years or so, why not? We will know.
     
  5. Benz

    Benz Member

    GM stopped selling Chevrolet cars in Europe because Opel was there.

    But now they have nothing.

    At the moment GM is not selling any car in Europe.

    Therefore GM should start selling cars in Europe again.
     
  6. Jack

    Jack Administrator Staff Member

    I recall the Ford Mustang selling very well in Germany. If GM introduces cars, including the camaro, I think they will be surprised how well the sell
     
  7. Benz

    Benz Member

    Not selling any cars in Europe, is a missed oppertunity.

    GM is a very big player in the automotive industry.

    I cannot imagine that they could have agreed to the clause to not sell any cars in Europe.

    That would simply be stupid.
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Administrator Staff Member

    I think at least 5 more years until GM has multiple models for sale in Europe
     
  9. Benz

    Benz Member

    Toyota cars are sold in every country.

    That is why they are able to sell so many cars every year.

    Yes there is competition in every market, but deciding to not compete is the worst choice.

    The quality of your product will capture it's marketshare.

    GM not selling any cars in Europe for another 5 years is a massive waisted opportunity.

    How can they be so stupid?
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Administrator Staff Member

    As I mentioned in another thread, I think GM is just slow to change, stick to tradition- they still prefer superchargers over turbo. Wasn't very long ago they were making 7.4L V8's in camaros.

    Side fact: Toyota sells more cars than Honda and others because of rental car sales
     
  11. Benz

    Benz Member

    Today I was informed that Pamela Fletcher has been put in charge of the new EV division of GM (Global Electric Vehicle Programs).

    In the next 6 years GM will introduce 20 new EV models.

    I am sure GM would want to sell all these new EV models in Europe as well.
     
  12. Jack

    Jack Administrator Staff Member

    I don't think they will start immediate sales in Europe, and my guesstimate 5 year timeline is similar to their 6 year plan so I wouldn't hold your breath. Hopefully they start sooner than later tho
     
  13. Benz

    Benz Member

    Yes it will take time, but not 5 years.

    In 2020 GM will be selling it's car models in Europe.
     
  14. IanL

    IanL New Member


    The Mustang is selling very well here in Britain too, I always see a few every day. And, surprisingly, it's the V8s that are outselling the EcoBoosts. Though, if someone has £38k [about $50k USD] for a V8 Mustang, they can afford the petrol to go in it.
    Would a Camaro sell just as well?
    Maybe if GM had the foresight, like Ford, to shift the steering wheel over to the right side of the car.

    Me? I'm just sitting here wanting a RHD Ampera-E.
     
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  15. Jack

    Jack Administrator Staff Member

    All models, most models, or just Electric? Certainly possible but I don't see more than a couple models
     
  16. Jack

    Jack Administrator Staff Member

    Yeah, I heard that as well! Surprising draw for muscle cars in Europe, but cheap power is always attractive. I definitely think camaro would sell well, but that is just the hook for GM to start selling other models.
     
  17. Benz

    Benz Member

    At least it's Electric models.
     
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  18. Cypress

    Cypress Active Member

    GM is making the pivot to China. Europe is a dead end market for them.
     
  19. IanL

    IanL New Member

    Of course, it didn't help that they were trying to sell us rubbish. Insipid garbage like the Spark [ICE], Aveo, and the Cruze. Seriously, if you're going to try and sell us a tin-can with Tic-Tac plastics like the Spark (and I drive a Renault!!), at least send the EV version- I hear the drivetrain is pretty damn groovy.

    I'd wager that Dacia helped finish off Chevrolet in Europe. Really, Chevy only had one USP; they were slightly cheaper than Ford, Vauxhall, etc. Then Dacia came along offering slightly better, but much cheaper.
     
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  20. Cypress

    Cypress Active Member

    I like it. Currently on a business trip and having to drive an ICE. I miss the spark ev.
     
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