Wassup with Sales?

Discussion in 'Clarity' started by MrFixit, Jun 29, 2019.

  1. MrFixit

    MrFixit Active Member

    OK, time for an update on sales. This includes sales through September 2019.
    Our Clarities continue to wane (only 400 sold in September) :(

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  2. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    Very sad to see the Clarity sales tank, at least in the USA. Are they still selling well in other countries?

    Very disappointing to see Honda's lack of support for what appears to be the best PHEV on the market.
    :(
     
  3. 4sallypat

    4sallypat Active Member

    ^^^
    Agree - this is the ideal setup since fuel prices in CA have jumped to almost double @ $5.50/gallon!

    Just filled up the wife's BMW with 91 octane and costed over $80 to fill !

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    It's no wonder why Honda decided to stock the Clarity in CA!
    They knew there would be the biggest market for their cars (PHEV, EV, FCV) a petrol prices are so astronomically high!
     
  4. css28

    css28 Active Member

    I believe Japan is its only market outside of the US and Canada.
     
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  5. Alex on Autos had a post where he said he was getting a first look at some Toyota cars, including the RAV4 PHEV. I wonder if that will be nationwide, and if it will change the landscape (and/or effect Honda's strategy). As a technical matter, I prefer Honda's transmission approach to Toyota's...
     
  6. Landshark

    Landshark Active Member

    Good grief! That is above any price listed on Gas Buddy in that area by up to a dollar per gallon. The app is free.
     
  7. MrFixit

    MrFixit Active Member

    Very high compared to my area too, but keep in mind that @JustAnotherPoorDriver is citing pricing for premium (91 octane).
     
  8. css28

    css28 Active Member

    It doesn't seem that long ago that each octane grade was just $.10 to $.20 above the lower one but it's a big markup now.
     
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  9. Landshark

    Landshark Active Member

    Yes, I’m looking at 91 Octane/Premium fuel prices. $4.50 is available at many locations. One would really have to search for $5.50. That price doesn’t even show up on the app.
     
  10. 4sallypat

    4sallypat Active Member

    Local taxes make a huge difference in the price of fuel.
    Orange County - I just passed a lot of places today at $4.50 but then as soon as you get to LA County - especially Signal Hill, Culver City, and El Segundo where the taxes are the highest, you can find over $5/gal.
    Unfortunately, my car requires 91 octane (super)....
     
  11. BeMurda

    BeMurda Member

    There is only one factory in Japan that makes the PHEV and I heard it was being shut down for something until Dec. If it is already closed that explains the sales. I know Canada had it's final distribution of 2019s like two months ago. Sold out nation wide.
     
  12. Landshark

    Landshark Active Member

    The 76 on Centinela and Palms shows $4.43. 76 on Centinela and National shows $4.67. Both are Premium/91 Octane.

    I can only try to helping for so long.

    Gas Buddy.
     
  13. Steven B

    Steven B Active Member

    Apparently this report came out in March but an electrek article pointed to it in my news feed. I think this says a lot about why Honda pulled back the Clarity: They are at the top of the list for fleet efficiency and therefore don't need EVs and PHEVs to balance out models with terrible gas mileage. More driven by regulations than by consumer demand.
    https://www.epa.gov/automotive-trends/highlights-automotive-trends-report
    Focus of the electrek article was on Toyota:
    https://electrek.co/2019/10/31/toyotas-greenwashing-conceals-worsening-fleet-mpg/
     
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  14. css28

    css28 Active Member

    Makes some sense. With fewer Priuses and more Tundras and Sequoias going out the door, it's hard to keep the CAFE down.

    Honda sort of maxes out with the Pilot and Odyssey.
     
  15. Billi

    Billi New Member

    Ah, that's most likely why Honda's not worried about selling the Clarity and possibly even wish to discontinue it...

    Because there's no way Prius Prime is out selling the Clarity based purely on merit. These sales figures just isn't driven by market.
     
  16. coutinpe

    coutinpe Active Member

    Sorry pal. These are the times I don't miss my old Mazda CX-7 Turbo also requiring 91...
     
  17. Shankovich

    Shankovich New Member

    Honda manufactures the clarity at a loss.
     
  18. KentuckyKen

    KentuckyKen Well-Known Member

    While most of us on the forum would tend to agree, do you have a source to share or is that just speculation?
     
  19. Ken7

    Ken7 Active Member

    At this point, at least based on sales, you have to wonder why Honda even bothers. It wouldn't surprise me if they ceased production, but let's hope they don't.
     
  20. Shankovich

    Shankovich New Member

    I called Lombardi honda in Montreal and a rep there told me this when I asked. To be honest it makes a lot of sense. The clarity is kind of like a test bed for future hybrid systems and code (I'm an engineer and this is common practice especially in automotive settings). Also I believe the clarity also helps Honda meet fleet MPG requirements quite a bit.
     
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