Tsunami of short seller & fossil fuel sponsored media lies recently

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by 101101, Aug 13, 2020.

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  1. 101101

    101101 Well-Known Member

    There has been an amazing onslaught of utter bs aimed at Tesla from July through early August. JD powers is a joke like a bribed gossip. No one believes Dodge is first in quality or Tesla even remotely last. What people know is Tesla is first in customer satisfaction and first in brand loyalty. Another article came out likely much closer to the truth. Turns out highest quality autos are put in out in China for all the global brands and Tesla's Chinese Model 3 was highest quality by a long shot about 10x better than the average for the global brands. The JD Powers stuff is the same level of nonsense as as the articles (ads) that come out saying a stock went up or down because of what Goldman Sachs had to say- when it was Goldman that sponsored the horn blowing ad (article) itself to try to reinforce its manipulation of the stock value when it had a conflict of interest to start with. So funny Goldman published article comes out saying Deutsche Bank dropped because Goldman downgraded it then a corresponding trading platform generated article from Deutsch comes out saying Goldman dropped because Deutsche downgraded it when there wasn't even any human supervision for these ads pretending to be articles all generated by software. Stuff needs to be illegal- lying to the public about the public interest for profit needs to be a crime- no more paid lie industry. There has been a lot lately. Noticed Munro started to question Tesla's commitment to quality but then said hydrogen would work out but then qualified it by saying he had been predicting that forever- seems he'd know better about the hydrogen scam.

    Some more examples. Tesla's factory was shut for half of the 2nd quarter but the news was trying to minimize that to reduce the impact of Tesla's win and win on total shipments despite being shut longer due to corruption targeting Tesla in Alameda. German court saying Tesla can't advertise Autopilot is idiotic because Tesla does not advertise. Musk was totally, right changing the name of Autopilot would be idiotic (but it wasn't something the German court wanted anyway it was lie based media trying to riff on the prior falsehood it put out.) There was also all the FUD that said Tesla wipers were illegal in Germany. What that is about is the Tesla wiper system is superior and getting more superior (see the patent on wiper designs for the Cybertruck) so they tried to take a Tesla strong point and paint it as a weakness- BMW's mo. Saw articles that Teslas switchless design was bad design that had to stop- this is because legacy makers are purveyors of crap switches that wear out and legacy makers can't handle the transition to single screen solutions. You want switches and knobs and mechanical buttons in the middle of your cell phone screen? Cadillac and Ford think you do because they think the original iPod is still state of the art and didn't realize the BMW iDrive was a bitter failure. Tesla wipers can be adjusted by voice a couple other ways also and are speed sensing and automatic- no need for adjustment in the first place- do I have this wrong? Another: Tesla can't sell batteries in South Korea. And still another Tesla is limiting all Super Chargers in in the EU to 120kwh. More FUD saying Tesla can't have video games in Hong Kong. Another stating in the title Autopilot is shown not to be safer. Another stating Model Y is not matching EPA range. One headline trying to imply that Lucid's far off offering was crushing Tesla when it was lower than what was stated for the Roadster from 2 years prior by a good bit and only in the range of the CT and another stating Mercedes with something way below the range of Model S Raven was crushing Tesla on range by trying to conflate Mercedes WLPT with Tesla's EPA range.

    And why is Tony Sacanogghhi still on these Tesla calls? He is back to reciting his usual fossil fuels have a future ads stated as questions during the earnings calls. If someone asks obvious time wasting corrupt question beggars why are they on the call at all? How often has this guy ever been right about Tesla? Don't need an obvious fudster on the calls, he is an utter waste of time put there by saboteurs like International Share Holders Services- put Galileo Russell back on instead! Notice that Tony tried to put out some more fud recently in Forbes transparently trying to say China should punish Tesla (but trying to hide this by also listing Apple for punishment.) to retaliate for ticktok and whatsapp (Tenchent) all with the same totally transparent question begging technique he bores up the earnings calls with. He wanted China to retaliate against Tesla over Tiktok/whatsapp and Tencent because he thinks that serves fossil fuels. Funny because Tencent bought into Tesla.

    Elecktrek- Lambert did the shill thing again in an article just so he could say CT only had over 500k orders when he knew it was over a million or was at that point. Afterward Musk said over 200k so people presumably still keep taking orders and possibly also just to contradict Lambert's nonsense. Then the quips came that there must have been a bunch of cancellations. No! But there surely there have been multiple orders with some potential buyers to try to secure an earlier delivery spot or different configurations. Still seems the public has put down something like 100 million in reservations or so. Now even more stupid was Electrek's claiming Rivian and Cybertruck were neck and neck. The point of Lambert's shilling was apparently part of an effort to create an opening for that nonsense. You can't always trust Google trends as they fudge for firms like Sony but you can do a simple Google trends search to see Rivian and its entire brand and all of its products are totally nothing in comparison to CT. Sony probably has bots typing in "Sony' all through the day.

    Take West Virginia the interest is 84% Cybertruck and 16% Rivian (for all of Rivian as search term) But everywhere in the US the interest in Cybertruck is much higher except Michigan where there is 5% edge for Rivian. But I think in almost all cases the Rivian is only looked at to see what the competition is. And Rivian is not looked at because there was a purchase interest after CT was introduced. By another chart we see the highest interest in "Rivian" even as a search term or the term for the whole company and all of its products at its highest point only reached about 11% of what Cybertruck reached as a product for peak searches since CT's intro. And the average overall search for Rivian (whole company and all of its products) vs Cybertruck over the last year is 250% more in favor of the Cybertruck on average. There was only one week since the announcement of the CT that search for Rivian (whole company and all of its products) exceeded CT and then only by 20%. Sorry, Rivian's truck offerings are literally nothing in comparison to Cybertruck and the beat down will be worse than the Chevy lug nut vs the Model 3. But that is because the Rivian trucks are warmed over Ford Ranger small truck look alikes for a full size diesel truck price going up against the CT which is already the most sought after pick up of any kind by people new to pick-ups and has displaced the Dodge brand already (about a month or two ago) among people who have truck experience.

    Rivian maybe knowing its in trouble despite support from Amazon and Ford puts out stuff in response to a Tesla suit over espionage where it sound like Hothi that short seller, claiming that Tesla is defaming it. And in the case of Hothi (if I have his name right) he was apparently (if the news was accurate) being aggressive toward Tesla or its staff and Tesla pushed back and now he is trying to claim he is being defamed. And Alameda took it? Guess its Alemeda.
    And then there was something in Insideevs trying to link a broken seat backs to Model Y and something I think Sen Markey co-sponsor of GND is pushing with Blumenthal- there is some real anger on the part of the sponsored left.

    New thing in media seems to be going back to printing headlines with total falsehoods and a wave of anti Tesla trolls in chats. Seeing all these articles in places like Cleantechnica by writers like Steve Hanley (who shills for natural gas all the time) saying in a few years solar and wind will be competitive NG- when green has been utterly destroying NG for more than 4 years even with the idiotic Trump tariffs on solar designed to keep NG looking viable (its not)- ripping up brand new NG and replacing it with new battery backed solar is a much better economic option (doing new NG is always pure fraud) and we've seen Duke and other's pipeline deals in the South just collapse simply because people bought heat pumps for their homes and they couldn't handle the loss of return over that small change. Tina Casey recently wrote in Clean Technical roof top solar would be competitive with fossil fuels in a few years- what? It was long ago and permanently destroy them now. Hanley wrote decades from now green in the UK would reduce utility bills- ah no, it needs to do that immediately. This is paid shilling at its worst and Casey is usually better than that.

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  3. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Two years ago, I examined the "SHORT" claims in detail. Then I took half of my 401k and put it into TSLA at ~$300/share. This was probably not what the SHORTs wanted.

    Bob Wilson
     
  4. 101101

    101101 Well-Known Member

    Bob a good move to be sure! What have they lost now 60 billion? Well the governments burn 5 trillion a year propping up the useless fossil fuel industry. I remember Insideevs didn't like my comment that 90trillion to get rid of the fossil fuel industry in 10 years was literally less than 90, no greater bargain in history! Now its different in the case of Aramco because its state owned but what is Aramco's value (although Buffet was involved with them for something- like the IPO.) Is it 7 trillion or is it less than Apple's- keep getting two different estimates. State fossil fuel industries do get second chances and I hope Aramco re-accelerates its efforts to find the next thing. Seems very certain Musk had the funding secured!!!!

    The FUD continues.
    That article in inside EVs where they say a Model Y seat failed but show the inside of a Toyota failing the test is one and this is because Tesla's are 10x safer than Lexus with Autopilot apparently. Then Porsche which prides itself on braking or stopping better than it goes is upset so presumably it does this ridiculous test where a stock Model 3P owner invites a pro race driver to test it at the ring and between the two of them there is an extra $350 lbs of weight beyond a svelte 150lbs test driver and they manage to keep up with a 911 GT3 RS and the commentary starts with Tesla brakes are any good they fade. But the M3P brakes are re-branded Brembos so what is the issue? And fade with an extra 350lbs of lard but only manages with all that extra weight to keep up with the GT3 RS 911 with presumably a non pro driver? But Porsche is also surely upset that the Raven trounced it again on going forward so they try to go after the Model 3 but in the audio the pro driver says Model S's would break down at half a lap and have to be hauled to their home country- so more BS they are trying to pedal. Then Insideevs chimes in with a stock M3P can't keep up with the best of the best. Saw other stupid comments like a BMW M3 wouldn't come to the track with weak brakes. Should really study the actual performance numbers M3P utterly vanquishes BMW M3 leaves it in the dust and that shows in sales. So this is ICE makes trying to spend to repair their reputational damage. Another article in Forbes, EU EV surge but where is Tesla- well plant was shut thanks to a revenge agenda for half of Q2 so supply. Can go find all the Randy Pobst data on the different tracks with the Teslas and see Tesla wins.
    wins.

    I've noticed there is a big push to focus on Polestar which is really Chinese Greely now. And they focus on Greely because it has some Volvo vibe left over. And the narrative they want is an ICE maker (see their Polestar 1 abomination) suddenly starts winning so it can reign in the EV transition on behalf of fossil fuels and put a stop to it. You see they don't focus on Xpeng because that is a pure EV play and not because it copied or stole from Tesla, that didn't stop them with Rivian. The media is such udder rubbish, they literally think it is their job to get paid and to profit from lying to the public about matters of public interest and if every new reporter doesn't think that their pathetic editors and 'owners' do.
    Its time to replace them with machines and software we don't need a paid deception industry anymore than we need a government propaganda.
     
  5. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I'm more sanguine about the reports of Tesla Competition:
    1. Ones that match Tesla acceleration -> cost 2x more
    2. Ones that have lots of switches and buttons -> become fan favorites of reviewers but poor range and high consumption
    About the 'Polestar 2' - currently there are six in the USA being used as press cars. This means the reviewers are lucky to get half-a-day of driving around. These six will be used for crash testing and EPA performance testing.

    About the 'Lucid Air' - it looks like what the Cadillac or a Rolls Royce should have been. After three years with Tesla, the chief technology officer is a soft spoken engineer who makes a lot of sense.

    About all the others - they are cursed by the Electrify America and EVgo networks which have a reputation of expensive and unreliable. They are cursed.

    Bob Wilson
     

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