Tesla yoke steering systems and FUD vs what should have been covered

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    101101 Well-Known Member

    Yes it is a yoke specific steering system because when you go to a yoke more is involved to make it right and actually better than simply changing the shape of a steering wheel into a yoke. Dynamic variable effort and variable steering ratio steering systems both active together and keyed to vehicle speed have been available in cars since 4 wheel steering systems in the late 80s on vehicles like the Nissan Z. At least that is the way I remember it. Found a patent going back to 1994 but I believe there were earlier versions. They are adjustable and proven and work great. They have been available in cars with only 2 wheel steering and work with passive matching rear suspensions that also help steer- or without such complementary systems at the rear. Your body has no problem getting used to this, it naturally adjusts and it feels better. These are the best steering systems and require less effort and less stress in every way. Initially these were hydraulic but later on they were fly by wire and now they are integrated into stability to control or actively correct for over-steer inputs in different situations. Yoke steering does provide more leg room especially for ingress and egress. Yoke steering is more comfortable. Yoke steering makes the cluster feel more open and less cramped. There is a reason you still see it in the biggest Jetliners despite the introduction of side sticks decades ago in commercial aviation by Airbus. It is more comfortable for long haul as pilot use attests vs wheels or half wheels which also used to be present in aviation sticks and mated to a pitch lever. You can still find wheels on some nuclear subs but yoke is clearly better ergonomically for long hauls and for precision quick movements There is a reason you also see it as standard in race cars. It provides better orthopedic alignment of the bones in your hands and arms. There is a reason its standard on street legal hyper-cars. The reason is it is just plain better. It also doesn't suffer from having to go hand over hand as people imagine because the dynamic variable assist and dynamic steer ratio systems solve that. There will be yoke systems out there where the complementary hardware doesn't fully resolve this but those are purpose built vehicles not vehicles for maximum performance and comfort made for the general public. F1 has a 1:1 or 30 degree lock to lock- obviously not for anyone but race car drivers and cars that have huge grip and brakes.

    Stunned if anyone can point to one publication that pointed out the things just pointed out. It is not like its obscure information. Any steering specialist or automotive engineer knows about this. Even people who graduated yesterday will see these things in text books and will presumably be car people anyway. The big 3 car mags have likely had hundreds of articles on this stuff over the past few decades. The Lincoln Mark 8 had at least half of such a system. BMW's had such a system in the 7 Series from the late 80s and early 90s it had some of this support hardware minus the yoke- if I am wrong about that most big makes from even 6 years ago have full systems. This isn't hard to think about as automotive goals. They started out with highly automated systems that were very complex but learned they could make simpler less expensive more reliable systems by adding purpose built passive elements back in. But your body learns to modulate these systems even when they aren't linear as easily as it learns a new gas pedal or brake pedal in a new vehicle - its almost instantly part of your muscle memory

    But FUD media didn't point out the stuff above not even when Randy Pobst was interviewed about it in Motor Trend for a reason- and MT and Pobst are more honest You see the way the sponsored media works is based on defacto bribery and extortion. So for instance BMW pays a wink wink bribe in unneeded ads to Car & Driver to write negative untrue misleading things about Tesla- it just understood what they are paying for. And then wink, wink Tesla is supposed to fall prey to this extortion and set up an upward ratcheting bidding war to not be lied about and vice versa or else but it doesn't play which takes strength and puts the whole democracy killing rights killing sponsorship practice at risk which infuriates the cons. This applies to Consumer Reports which try to say it isn't part of this system but clearly is with a slight variation. CR is there to act like the sponsored consensus isn't bribe and extortion based. And the most amazing and unacceptable thing is when they can get people to pay for these lies like paying for infomercials that are pure false advertising. This is why with very rare exception people don't like journalists and don't like the media because the are damn lying extortionate pieces of sht. Nothing lower or more despicable than getting paid to lie to the public about the public interest or making profit from that because the harm is cumulative and absolute and it is just wrong on every level. And then you have those that try to angle for the strategic lie. These are the worst they tell a different seemingly honest or more trust worthy careful story most of the time but are always on the take trying to sell the big lie to people who are deluded into trusting their output. They play other games that amount card stacking and lying as well such as putting out a bunch of tripe about how something is impossible by a bunch of experts knowing full well that its already been down so they can exclusively announce it the next week or month. All this stuff has to become illegal like much of it once was, but we need to go further.
     
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