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Discussion in 'Honda' started by workbench, Jan 13, 2019.
Came across this product on Amazon. Does anyone have experience using this product?
I don't have experience, but I've read about it.
It's for Tesla Destination Chargers, which provide L2 charging, not fast-charging. They can be found at hotels and some other businesses. The adapter is not usable with Tesla Superchargers, so don't be fooled into thinking this will let you tap into the Tesla network for high-speed charging on a road trip!
Here's a photo of a typical installation; Tesla often installs a Clipper Creek charger, with a J-1772 plug, alongside their own L2 charger, which has a Tesla plug.
I've been using one for a couple of months now, and it works fine. In my case, I use the standard 32A version for my Clarity PHEV; the Clarity limits the charging current, so there was no advantage to a 40 or 50A version for me. If you have a PHEV Clarity, you might note this. Not sure if Honda has the same charging circuit limitation on the BEV version.
The only quirks I've noticed is that I sometimes need to "reset" the Tesla charger to make it work. There is apparently some time required for the Teslatap and Tesla charger to negotiate their interfaces. The instructions with the Teslatap say to wait 30seconds after connecting them before plugging it in to the car. I don't always wait. ;-)
I can see a ticked off Tesla owner keying your car if he pulls up with a dead battery and sees a non Tesla PHEV car parked there.... lol. Humans can be funny about this sort of thing. My thinking is that only Teslas should use the Tesla network. Or you risk them rising up collectively against you...
And from a practical standpoint, that product will NEVER pay for itself. Just let he engine start and propel your car...
I have the 50amp version just for peace of mind. Well made and works well for the 100amp circuited Tesla charger we already put in our garage.
There has been a lot of discussion and argument over this point. But Tesla doesn't own these chargers; they only install them. The property owner owns them once installed, and is responsible for supplying them with power and maintaining them. Tesla doesn't pay for the electricity charging your car, as they do at Superchargers. It's up to the property owner to set rules, or not, for who can or can't use them.
If Tesla intended their destination chargers to be used only by Tesla cars, they could easily put software limits in them to charge only Tesla cars, which is the case at their Superchargers. And also, if Tesla intended only for Tesla cars to charge at their Destination chargers, they wouldn't be installing Clipper Creek chargers alongside their L2 Tesla chargers.
If some Tesla car owner is tempted to "key" someone's non-Tesla car when it is -- quite properly -- using a destination charger as Tesla intended, well then... you can find a-holes among every part of the population, even including Tesla owners.
EV charging etiquette is something for which our society is going to have to come to a consensus. That will take time to develop. In the meantime, I suggest leaving a note on someone's car if you think they are abusing charging stall privileges. Preferably a polite one, since we don't yet have a consensus on charging etiquette. In fact, some people have such notes printed up in quantity in advance, for this specific purpose.
"Honey gathers more flies than vinegar." -- English proverb
I use these. https://www.etsy.com/listing/240583087/ev-etiquette-survival-pack-hang-tags
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Also can't Tesla's use J1772s if they need to? So can I key a Tesla using a non-Tesla charger then?
Only if the driver has a J1772 adapter for his Tesla car. But at least Tesla does sell those for the MS/MX... not sure about the Model 3.
Lol...gotta love it....
I guess that depends on how sharp the edges are on that non-Tesla charger.