Oil Change Frequency for Clarity

Discussion in 'Clarity' started by Atul Thakkar, Mar 26, 2018.

  1. Kevin in CT

    Kevin in CT New Member

    My Clarity called for an A 01 Service at 3 months and 6000 miles. Have used car on two long distance trips but most of time EV around town. Dealer changed oil & filter for free but wheel rotation wasn't!
  2. Zor

    Zor Member

    The MM better not be giving a Oil Change every 6000 miles. That is ridiculous. I will have less then 500 miles on the gas engine at 6k. Likely less then 1000 at 12k. I am over 95% EV.

    Might be a small court claims case in the future. The MM sounds like it is not doing what they claim it is.
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  3. S L .

    S L . Member

    Theres another thread here and some one got the reminder again at 13,000 miles

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    Last edited: Aug 19, 2018
  4. S L .

    S L . Member

    Is the first oil change free because of the deal with your dealer? My dealer did not mention anything about free first oil change

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  5. Ray B

    Ray B Active Member

    I posted this in the Clarity subtopic, but didn't realize there was another thread here. The press kit for the Clarity says that infrequent use of the ICE could extend the service interval: http://hondanews.com/releases/2018-honda-clarity-plug-in-hybrid-press-kit

    "The Maintenance Minder™ system monitors operating conditions such as oil and coolant temperature along with engine speed to determine the proper service intervals. Depending on operating conditions, oil change intervals can be extended to a maximum of 12,000 miles, potentially sparing the owner considerable expense and inconvenience over the life of the vehicle. The owner-resettable system monitors all normal service parts and systems, including oil and filter, tire rotation, air-cleaner, transmission fluid, spark plugs, coolant, brake pads and more. To reduce the potential for driver distraction, maintenance alerts are presented only when the ignition is first turned on, not while driving."
  6. LarryC

    LarryC New Member

    Newbie here, just had first oil change after service reminder at 7200 miles. Didn't use Honda, went to my go-to independent service center. They had issue that after refilling oil and replacing filter they could not get engine to run in the service bay. Just had to drive it round the block with hard acceleration to get engine to kick in. I am sure for a conventional vehicle turning engine over to ensure oil is well distributed and therefore at correct level is routine.

    We have maximized our EV miles and have probably purchased less than 50 gallons of fuel.
  7. ryd994

    ryd994 Active Member

    A few ways might help:
    1. Bring in with minimum charge, then you can use HV charge mode
    2. Keeping cool AC on for 10+ minutes can turn on the engine.
    3. Use the heat AC and drain the battery, then you can go 1
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  8. Jeff628

    Jeff628 New Member

    The car has a maintenance mode for this purpose. You can force the engine to turn on by doing the following steps.

    1) Make sure the car is completely off.
    Note: The rest has to be done within 60 seconds to take effect.
    2) Press the start button without stepping on the brake pedal. Then a second time after a few seconds so that the lights come on around the P on the shift lever.
    3) With the shift lever in P, press the accelerator pedal to the floor twice.
    4) Push the brake pedal and move shift lever to N, release brake pedal. Press the accelerator pedal to the floor twice.
    5) Push the brake pedal and move shift lever to P, release brake pedal. Press the accelerator pedal to the floor twice.
    6) Push the brake pedal and push the ON button to start the car. The display will show maintenance mode and the engine will start after a few seconds.

    When you are done, just push the power button to turn the car off.
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  9. KentuckyKen

    KentuckyKen Well-Known Member

    Wow, great info Jeff on the official way to run the ICE after an oil change. I’m too old to remember all those steps so I’ll just hit HV and drive around the block a few times.
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  10. LarryC

    LarryC New Member

    Hi Jeff,
    Where did you find this nugget? Couldn't find it in Owner's Guide. Sounds like a Honda technician's procedure. Thanks for that, my go-to mechanic will use this next time.

  11. David A

    David A Guest

    LarryC...quick question.

    How do you feel about Honda telling you to change your oil after putting only 2500 miles on the ICE? (50 gals * 50 mpg = 2500 miles on ICE)

    I am truly curious...do you feel it is needed and necessary at 2500 miles or are you just doing it because the Honda MM program told you to?

    Is it because you worry about the warranty being voided if you don't?

    Just on a fact finding mission. Thanks
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  12. Jeff628

    Jeff628 New Member

    I saw it a when I was looking at documents on Honda's Service Express website.
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  13. LarryC

    LarryC New Member

    I did not feel that the car warranted an oil change due to low engine hours but as you surmised I wanted some evidence if I encountered a warranty issue later. On my 2007 Civic the algorithm seemed appropriate as the time between oil changes was not always the same as the car was not always driven on same commute schedule. Looks like Honda didn't go very far developing an algorithm for the PHEV as we all seem to be getting same MM message about the same mileage.
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  14. toronto_clarity

    toronto_clarity New Member

    I got my car on August 30 and it said that my first maintenance is in 9 months. 1000kms / 625miles in now and it has dropped to 8 months. Some use of ICE. 3 bars on gas used from full tank delivered by dealer. Time will tell.
  15. GV Ottawa

    GV Ottawa Member

    I got my 4 weeks A 1 9 service reminder at 9500 km (approx 6k miles).
  16. Jaketesla

    Jaketesla Member

    There is no way I'm going to change the oil when the MM tells me. I record all gas purchases and use that to tell me how many km are on the ICE. I had the first oil change at 17,000 km and now, at 24,000, the MM shows the next oil change due in 7 weeks even though I calculate that only about 1000 km were driven in hybrid mode. If Honda were to give me any warranty grief I would show them the gas receipts and take them to court if necessary.
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  17. David A

    David A Guest

    Thanks for the reply. That is what I figured and it is really a shame that folks are put between a rock and a hard place to do something that is totally unnecessary because they fear the warranty will be voided.

    I have been vocal and very forthright in my write ups on this site reference the MM and frequency of oil changes in hopes someone from Honda does indeed read these threads.

    Some industry folks are listening to these voices and points are well taken on some of the issues that are pertinent. The fight is against a industry and their arrogance when dealing with consumers on all types of issues...not just a misguided algorithm which is obvious to the most uninterested observer that it is nowhere close to being accurate.

    Thanks again.
  18. Atul Thakkar

    Atul Thakkar Active Member

    Or other way to back up will be to keep hydro consumption proof: The Charge point app will precisely tell you how much hydro is used. The rest goes on gas if you are not charging outside.
  19. JCEV

    JCEV Active Member

    Hydro=electricity for anyone outside of Ontario :)
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  20. Le Canadien

    Le Canadien New Member

    second oil change du at 24,000 km (15,000 miles). ice engine run some time not for long in fall and spring. but somme time run for 5 minutes or less maybe but just for make humidity inside engine. at -20 and more cold the engine run a lot.

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