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Discussion in 'Clarity' started by loomis2, Jul 4, 2018.
This could be amazing. The hardest part would be convincing the wife to do it.
It isn't ported for the Clarity yet... The hardware is there in the car though and fully supported, so it wouldn't be difficult. I use a comma eon in another car and love it. The use case though is all hwy driving.
Suggest either diving in and help port it or take a wait and see approach... The tech is evolving very very quickly.
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Is this plug and play into the obII or do you have to do a lot of wiring etc? I would totally try it!
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0 interest on my part. I enjoy driving.
Your best bet is to go to YouTube and watch the install videos. Minimal wiring but not quite plug and play.
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The video I saw with a Civic required removing the panel behind the rearview mirror that is attached to the front windshield. I'm not sure where that panel is on the Clarity. Either way, you won't be able to put the panel back on because of the extra boxes you plug in there. Also, it looks like the entire thing would run a little over $1000. I am taking the wait and see approach, but man, is it interesting!
From their page:
"Note: This product is not designed to drive a car. This product is designed to be a dashcam."
Thanks. It would have been nice if the subject of this thread mentioned dashcam.
The heading "Would you do it?" is not informative.
Well then I completely missed the point. I thought this device was a data-collection system in your car with both video and OBDII sensors that make driving data available to the company's engineers developing open-source AI leading to autonomous vehicles. If it's only a dash-cam, I can get one of those for a few bucks.
The unit itself is just "supposed" to be a dashcam. When you add the other parts to it that use the radar and cameras built into the car it is able to drive the car. It is already pretty much on par with the system in the Clarity and it keeps getting refined. So instead of having to buy a new car to get the updated adaptive driving features you can just update the system over the air. I wonder what car company that sounds like?
The system hasn't been programmed specifically for the Clarity yet, so this is more of a hypothetical question at the moment, but the chances of this making it to the Clarity are probably pretty good. My only problems with it at present are 1. This isn't much better than what is in the car right now so the price isn't worth it, but that will change with time, and 2. It isn't a clean install. There isn't a good way to hide the parts you have to plug in, so it isn't attractive. But people stick phone holders and gps's to the insides of their cars all the time, so maybe it isn't as big of a deal as I think.
He got in trouble last time he marketed it as a "self driving" add on. So it's sold as a dashcam. I assume there are no warranties, so anything happens it is on the car owner. That's the biggest difference.
Okay, so it is intended to make the car self-driving, or at least semi-self driving. Again, it would be helpful if the title of this thread was changed to reflect that.
@loomis2: I think it's possible for you to edit the title of this thread?
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I'm astonished that anyone would entrust the lives of themselves, and possibly their passengers, to a third party self-driving (or semi-self-driving) device which hasn't been safety tested by the automobile manufacturer.
I don't see how it would be possible to have a "plug-n-play" device which uses the same hardware for every car. Cars are engineered differently, and any self-driving or semi-self-driving system should be engineered with those differences in mind.
I think that is why most of the cars that it works with are Hondas. Probably mainly because Honda puts all the driver assist features as standard equipment so they all have it.
They just announced an update. It is now up to version .5 - https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/13/comma-ai-driver-assist-system-hands-on-test-drive/?guccounter=1
If you didn't look, they have the CAN analyzer info you can inspect.
This is from a demo of it
I know there is at least one person who has a Clarity and is actively trying to make it work. Apparently the Clarity has some specific differences that are taking some time to figure out. I thought since the Accord and Civic are working already it would be almost plug and play.
Even if they get it working I would still probably wait until the next hardware revision before I would even think about it, whenever that is, since the Clarity is pretty much on par with it right now anyway. The only thing the comma system does that I would like is active driver monitoring, so if it sees you watching the road it won't always make you touch the wheel. On the Accord they also have it resume from a stop automatically by electronically spamming the resume button. That way if you are stopped at a light you don't have to do anything to get it to start going again when it turns green.
Hey Loomis. Thanks for bringing this technology news to the attention of Clarity owners. Never knew it existed and have been following-up on it since your post. Love it!!! I got a 74 mile round-trip commute daily and appreciate the features already present on the Clarity. Some things that could be much better as it stands now with Lane Keep Assist: When the right lane approaches an off-ramp, Clarity wants to follow the right white line out of the lane. Seems that the middle or left-most lanes work best for lane keep assist. Another issues, curves! Even somewhat gradual ones seem to beat-up on Clarity’s lane keep assist. Adaptive Cruise: Have heard others say this and totally agree that Clarity DOES get on the brakes unnecessarily hard to slow the vehicle down at times in traffic. Think I would have gotten rear-ended by a semi truck had I not anticipated and turned it off on one occasion.
From watching numerous videos (Youtube)... the Openpilot experience really seems like a mostly flawless, much smoother driving situation than what comes stock on Clarity. If it works as good as it looks in the videos, I’m sold! Agree with you though... going to wait and watch to see how it progresses over time. If the whole kit was $500 and it had been tested on Clarity already, I’d order today.
Hey Loomis, I typed a bunch of words then somehow lost it when trying to reply... so here is a much shortened version. Just wanted to thank you for bringing this technology to the attention of Clarity owners. My commute is 74 miles round-trip and, although the Honda sensing features are much appreciated, Openpilot seems outstanding in comparison. Honda’s Lane keep assist doesn’t like curves, even gradual ones sometimes. It also likes to follow the white line on my right for exit ramps when I’d prefer to travel forward. Honda’s Adaptive cruise likes to stomp on the breaks on occasion leaving drivers behind me with angry faces. Wish Honda would update these features regularly somehow. Going to definitely keep a close watch on “Comma.ai.” If the whole setup was established for Clarity and was $500, I’d order it today.
It is around $1000 for all four parts that are needed to hook up. Right now the dash camera is a OnePlus 3t, so hopefully they will update that to a newer phone at some point. Apparently the software is reliant on that particular phone right now, so you can't just take any old phone you have lying around and make it work. I wish it could be installed a little cleaner out of the box, but it is a beta product. The nicest thing about it is it is continually being updated, unlike all car manufacturers not named Tesla. Some of your concerns like not being able to take sharper turns might be a hardware problem with the car, i.e. whatever the car uses to turn the wheel on its own might not be able to turn any tighter by itself, but time will tell. I am curious what it will look like a year from now.
Been almost a year since this was discussed...has anyone tried it? I'm very interested!!