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Discussion in 'Hyundai Kona Electric' started by apu, Jan 15, 2020.

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  2. They charge your credit card in US dollars but the website gives you a typically accurate quote in Canadian dollars including the shipping to your home. Yes its the 2019 2.0 liter Elantra filter.
     
  3. GPM432

    GPM432 Active Member

    yes that's the good deal
     
  4. I'd be surprised if cabin AC would need to be involved if battery cooling was needed, noting that the info indicates that the cabin evaporator is in parallel with the "chiller" and both have valves. But arguing technical trivia like this could be an expensive battle to win.
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  5. I agree that the cabin filter efficiency likely has no effect on battery cooling other than a indirect effect on decreased overall energy efficiency from the AC compressor working a little harder with an obstructed cabin filter.
     
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  7. I called three dealerships in and around the London (Ontario) area. Two wanted to include a brake service for $200+. The other said that wasn't required until possibly the next service. They said they inspect the brakes and if necessary, would let me know if they need service. Since they were more consistent with the service manual, I gave them a try. Brakes didn't need service. I had already replaced the cabin air filter. So, it was just a tire rotation and a bunch of inspections - $45 + tax. They also washed the car and vacuumed/wiped down the interior. I was quite happy with the service. This was London's Airport Hyundai.
     
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  8. What a racket...
     
  9. Thanks. I'm going to stand firm about the brakes thing. Besides, if brakes are an issue at 25k km I think it's a warranty issue not a wear issue, especially in an EV. It really bugs me that dealerships sell EVs but their service "packages" are all based on ICE vehicles. I'm like, "follow the damn manual" only to find that they've never even looked at it let alone thought about pricing it appropriately.
     
  10. FloridaSun

    FloridaSun Well-Known Member

    Luckily, in the US, you are not required to bring your car in for service to keep your warranty.. The only time they could deny a claim is if they have prove that it was caused due to lack of maintenance.. On the Kona Electric, the question is "What maintenance?"
    Based on the US maintenance schedule, until 120k miles, all that you have to "change" is the cabin air filter and the rest is checks.
     
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    You know, I don't know if it's required here either. I just try to do it because it's recommended by the manufacturer and it certainly can't hurt. I just hate feeling like I'm taking an outsize hit to my wallet for stuff that doesn't need to be done on an EV. For example, my sister took her Leaf in for the one year check and got soaked for a brakes bleed and fluid replacement - $400!
     
  13. Service is not required to be performed by dealer either in Canada, but you better be able to prove the service was performed if you have a future warranty claim that may be even remotely related. Hyundai has a bit of a reputation of pulling the lack of service card in warranty denial rather aggressively. My brother in law had a relatively newer Sonata start eating oil and develop an engine knock. His car was one of the hundreds if thousands of Hyundai engine failures due to a known manufacturing defect, yet they denied his claim because he apparently could not document a single missed scheduled oil change. He is a lawyer and has yet to get them to fix it. I agree many of these profit generating service schedules are BS but be mindful of how your actions or in actions may affect a future warranty claim. Its not inconceivable they could claim that a failing future traction battery or motor would not be covered because you could not document an inspection several years earlier that might be even indirectly relative.
     
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  14. Same here in NZ but there is an additional annual "body inspection" sign-off that appears to be required to be carried out by a dealer over 10 years, being the battery warranty period. Because they are not allowing for the option of using an independent shop for that, I don't think they could charge for this inspection in the case where they weren't also doing the service. I'm assuming this is to check that the battery underside has not been dented.
     
  15. cmwade77

    cmwade77 Active Member

    Luckily in the U.S., we have several protections against this behavior, especially in California, it really falls on the dealer to prove that it was a lack of maintenance that caused the issue. But it is also easy to document the inspections, just keep the receipts.
     
  16. GPM432

    GPM432 Active Member

    So got my cabin Filters today fit well cost for 3 $41.00 Canadian or about $29.00 I have used Rock a lot for my old cars they are probably the best outfit for this kind of stuff very fair shipping and their parts are very reasonable.
     
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  17. johnparjr

    johnparjr New Member

    I would assume 2019 and 2020 air filters are the same since I have a 2020
     
  18. GPM432

    GPM432 Active Member

    I would think so it's from an elantra part number

    TYC 800216P Cabin Air Filter cheap if you live in the USA
     
  19. I am really glad to have found this thread. I have been looking for an alternative for my Kia Niro EV and it seems that it is the same part for my car! Thanks for sharing.
     
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  20. I was tempted by the Rock Auto price, but once you factor shipping to Canada (Fedex $15) and brokerage ($25 to $40) it comes to nearly 18 bucks plus tax for each filter if I order four at a time. Good deal if you happen to be in the USA on vacation, but the brokerage takes all the fun out of it when shipped to Canada.

    So instead I found this one for $14 and it's available in my local NAPA store: https://www.napacanada.com/en/p/ALT3603477?impressionRank=3 So I ordered one to see if it fits (NAPA guarantees it will fit). It's not the same pn as the one for a elantra 2.0L4.

    I also noticed that K&N claim to have a washable reusable filter for the elantra 2.0 L4. $US45 for the filter and $US15 for the cleaning kit. Not a bad option if you live in a dusty place where filters plug quickly.

    Bonus tip: I always put some scented wax or oil on the CAF to make the car smell nice, at least for a while after I change it.
     
  21. Rockauto doesn't play the brokerage game with its shippers. The shipped price you get quoted typically already includes all the taxes and fees collected on behalf of the Canadian government. The only time time they may not collect GST is when you select USPS if available and they will tell you that upfront.
     
  22. XtsKonaTrooper

    XtsKonaTrooper Well-Known Member

    I noticed those ones don't have the charcoal stuff, so I bit the bullet and paid 5bux more for the Fram one.
    https://www.partsource.ca/products/cf12058-fram-fresh-breeze-cabin-air-filter?_pos=1&_sid=5bcd8e2f2&_ss=r

     
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