Advantages of Nissan Energy Share

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  1. 101101

    101101 Well-Known Member

    https://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/releases/nissan-to-create-electric-vehicle-ecosystem

    No sure how much cost this ads to the vehicles but sounds like a really good idea in some ways. Like it even more on vehicles like Sono Motors car that are covered in solar cells.

    Like this tech because it means the EV can be used at times like a Tesla Power Wall to avoid peak pricing for the home week nights and all weekend long without having to buy the home battery also means potentially much less power used from the grid where home already has solar with or without net metering- its a stop gap because the home battery is fully necessary for a sufficient societal outcome and much better than net metering. In a way this is kind of awesome because it immediately starts to create some energy cord cutting and a dent in energy rent seeking- the worst kind of rent seeking. So it adds immediately to the value proposition of the EV if it doesn't ad to the cost of the EV too much. But the full solution is to get where homes disconnect from the grid and do not pay any kind of grid or connection fee for back up power if their system goes down- but just pay whatever higher rate would be needed if they use the grid as a back up- temporary loss of electricity should not red tag a home anymore than the chronic power outages do today- maybe create a physical disconnect from the grid like in rural settings- not always practical as with some apartment densities, but where it is, it should absolutely happen. Physically disconnecting from the grid might be safer for the home as well power wise.

    Not a fan of making fossil fuels seem more viable by cost shifting to make their nightly spun losses seem like a better deal- better utilization of the fossil fuel scam is idiotic but this is what the fossil fuel industry is trying to push with tiered nightly charging of EVs to reduce grid load etc. We don't want to create defacto battery backed NG-coal-oil because that is moronic. It does make slightly better environmental sense but it is also perverse (you know its a byproduct from the for-profit fossil fuel hand out crowd) and will be short lived because at some point where the fossil fuel utility is still allowed in the mix it will create nightly fossil fuel load. We can imagine them failing to upgrade the grid to reinforce this point of entrapment. Better to dismantle or mothball fossil fuel plants first. Need to start doing to NG plants what we've been doing to coal plants and banning new construction and fining for the mecury- need the EPA rules back with a vengence. New NG plant is an eye sore and environmental hazard needs to be be dismantled the metal recycled. Need also to be able to charge at work midday in CA to alleviate duck curve without a premium, but not slow battery adoption.

    The idea of using the EVs to stop grid blackouts is slightly interesting but the grid has not been updated so they can create blackouts and then trying to gouge ala Enron- not much has changed. The tech is interesting if it allows you to charge another drained electric car even if slow. But we'd never want to sell the grid power from the car unless we can sell it at a premium to what the grid can resale it- get rid of the for-profit utilities first if the rate of exchange should ever be in the utilities' favor and even for this its a problem because we need to be free of energy rent seeking because its rent seeking that drains the time out of people's lives and kills them off through unnecessary stress. And we don't want to create incentives for them not to fix the grid (which they've made noise about thinking they can jack up rates over it.) Its like with the internet allowing paid prioritization fast lanes means they are incentivized to never fix this artificial premium generator- another something for no value added scam.

    Starting to wonder if the 35 billion dollar price tag affixed to the Paradise fires is in part because PG&E wants to suck down the savings that would be passed on to rate payers from battery backed green power even horrid battery backed NG- which should't be allowed except to decommission NG and block peaker plants. So suddenly PG&E sees something that would drop rates in CA- battery alleviation of duck curve and set an obviously worse precedent for gas cars so it suddenly has a $35 billion dollar fee it has to pass on to rate payers due to fossil fuel caused fires- 3rd time for this type of BS from them (PG&E has 40% of CA rate payers) or conversely just wants to hike rates in CA to hit EV charging rates and comes up with 35 billion dollar bill- not saying the fires didn't happen or that enraging death's didn't occur but it is very, very suspicious from this repeat offender under Enron and Aliso Viejo.
     
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