Mega Thread for Tesla Investors

Oh. My. Gawd!!

I didn't realize that someone had done yet another brilliant parody of Tesla shorters using that very popular clip from "Downfall".

And this one is so full of references to those following the "story" of Tesla that it's positively overflowing! Not as many belly laughs as the previous anti- anti-Tesla parody... but possibly even smarter.

Hmmm... despite exercising my Google-fu for awhile, I can't find the older one. I see multiple Tesla-related parodies using that clip from "Downfall", sadly not the side-splitting one I remember. Looks like, unfortunately, it has been removed over copyright issues... despite the fact that it clearly qualifies as "fair use" as a parody.

 

In cars from every auto maker, AEB only works under certain conditions. If the car is going too fast or too slow, it doesn't activate. Yeah, "in even Corolla and Civic". That's why auto accidents continue to be so commonplace they're not considered news... unless a Tesla cars is involved.

And if you didn't even know that, then you have no business commenting on the subject.

 

Actually, we can be pretty sure that Autopilot was not in active control of the car, since it won't allow the car to drive faster than 5 or 10 MPH (I forget which) above the speed limit.

If the car was driving at 125 MPH, then Autopilot must have been disengaged.

Not that "TeslaInvestors" would care, since real facts and Truth are almost entirely contrary to his agenda here.

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The reasonable conclusion is to be glad that Tesla's cash flow, and its profit margin on the Model 3, has improved to the point that they are making plans to offer TM3 leases. We knew that was coming sooner or later. If it's sooner, then that's a good sign!

You were not actually trying to make that out to be a bad thing, were you?

Oh, my... BWA HA HA HA HA!


Thanks yet again for keeping us entertained, TeslaShorter... er, I mean "TeslaInvestors".

Even if it is unintentional.

 

Okay, thank you for the correction, Domenick.

I've been assuming any crash in a Tesla car that is severe enough to crush a large portion of the car, and cause enough physical damage to the battery pack that it catches on fire, is a strong indication of excessive speed.

But looking at the details in that article, I don't see that the police said excessive speed was involved... or that they said it wasn't. Perhaps it was, but it would be jumping to a conclusion to state that speeds over 100 MPH were involved, without any supporting evidence.

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https://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/Pedestrian-crash-prevention

Bob Wilson

 

Nice example of a straw man argument. That's not even remotely what I said.

Nobody's AEB works all the time, and altho I certainly won't claim "proof", which by the scientific method is a pretty high bar to reach, I think there is plenty of evidence that AEB doesn't reduce the accident rate by that big a percentage.

So, TeslaShorter, your anecdotal evidence of a case where AEB in a Tesla car didn't prevent an accident, means even less than anecdotal evidence usually does. But of course, since you have never been able to come up with a good argument against Tesla, you have to keep resorting to these incredibly weak, fallacious ones. Flailing and failing.

But then, I guess everyone needs a hobby...

 

Thanks for posting that, Bob. I saw a news report about that. Looks like something that is quite important, and should have been done long ago. It's great that the newer ABS systems in at least a few car models are starting to make a real difference in reducing pedestrian accidents! Let's hope that becomes an industry standard, and soon.

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<AHEM> Yugo! Trabant!

Complaints about Tesla quality are exactly what I'd expect SHORT sellers to 'sell' which means we don't know. Regardless, I'll rebalance my gold (KL) vs Tesla (TSLA) ratio this next week.

Bob Wilson

 

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"In Europe, Model 3 anticipation turns into Model 3 morosity"
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Oh look... Daily Kanban published another Tesla bashing article. How repetitious and expected of them. One might almost think that Japanese auto makers are increasingly worried about competition from Tesla.

 

I guess we need to dumb this down quite a lot, so even someone foolish enough to keep shorting TSLA even after Tesla started showing a substantial net quarterly profit -- and after the runaway success of the Model 3 was well established -- can understand:

If AEB worked all of the time or even most of the time, then the "at fault" accident rate in cars equipped with AEB would drop to nearly zero. Very obviously this has not happened. Therefore, obviously, in most cases AEB doesn't prevent an accident.

Only a serial Tesla basher like you would try to pretend that it's only in Tesla cars that AEB often doesn't prevent an accident.

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Source: https://www.local10.com/news/florida/broward/tesla-crashes-into-tree-in-davie-killing-driver-police-say

Paramedics pronounced the driver dead at the scene. Witnesses at the scene said the Tesla was traveling at a high rate of speed before the crash.

The National Transportation Safety Board found that the Tesla's lithium ion battery, which was the source of the fire, reignited twice -- as police transported the car away from the crash scene and again when investigators tried to remove the battery from the burned-out remains of the vehicle.

Tesla has defended its electric-powered cars, saying high-speed collisions can cause fires in both gas and electric vehicles.​

Bob Wilson

 

Yea! The gold sold for what I asked. Now if @TeslaInvestors and the other SHORT sellers will get off their *ss and bring TSLA to $295, I'll be very happy!

Historically we find the weeks leading up to the quarterly reports are when TSLA reaches a local minimum. Tesla is effectively muzzled so the SHORT sellers can make a lot of unchallenged claims.

Bob Wilson