Clarity Low Speed 'Music'?

Discussion in 'Clarity' started by Ken7, Dec 25, 2017.

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  1. Mclarenf1

    Mclarenf1 New Member

    I would also love to get rid of this noise. Mainly because it never sticks to one note. It rises and falls with the speed of the vehicle. Kind of creepy.
     
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  3. PHEV Newbie

    PHEV Newbie Well-Known Member

    It doesn't bother me much and it seems to work as intended. It often gets heads turning when I'm driving around a parking lot.
     
  4. Ray B

    Ray B Active Member

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  5. Think it’s in the box attached to the 12V battery referenced on of 128 of the owners manual?

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  6. Parja

    Parja New Member

    I don't want to get rid of it. I just want to figure out a way to replace it with this...


    :D
     
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  8. chironi

    chironi New Member

    The pedestrian warning noise doesn't bother me one bit. I think it makes the car sound futuristic!

    Also I think it's dangerous and could possibly make you liable if you hack it off and hit someone. There's a very good reason for it; these cars are super quiet at low speed and pose a serious hazard to pedestrians without a warning system like this.
     
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  9. weave

    weave Active Member

    I dropped some friends off in front of a movie theater last night while a bunch of teenagers were hanging out in front. One of the teenagers asked if was an electric car, a girl apparently said she knew it was by the sound it made, and they all seemed to think it was really cool.

    Whodathunk this old guy would do something hip again! :)
     
  10. Johnhaydev

    Johnhaydev Active Member

    I like the sound: I makes me think the car is something from a science fiction movie. However, one of my friends hates the sound. so, reasonable people can differ.
     
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  11. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW Well-Known Member

    It reminds me faintly of the ice cream truck jingle. I appreciate that because I have a 5 year old and we all know kids can hear the ice cream truck jingle from 57.2 miles away, which I think is mainly the point in the first place.


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  13. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Yesterday at the National Drive Electric Week event in Ann Arbor, I was surprised many times when one of the Teslas was leaving the event early and came up silently behind me sitting in my folding chair next to my Clarity. Yes, all of the 30-odd Claritys left before the event was over. I came early (does 2 minutes early count?) and got a good spot, so all the cars drove by me at the end of the front row as they left.

    In the poster board I put together to display at the event, the last item in my 12-step program for driving a Clarity was this:
    12. Under 12 mph, hearken to the sound of angels singing to save pedestrians

    Could it be that those dangerous Teslas were cutting close to me and my Clarity just to intimidate me after they read this? Naw, all the Tesla driver I spoke with--like all the electric drivers at the event--were very nice people. I didn't hear the Bolts coming up behind me, either.
     
  14. Jason Brooks

    Jason Brooks New Member

    Anyone figure it out yet?
     
  15. ashmtl

    ashmtl Member

    There is nothing cool in that stupid noise people call music. It is too loud and annoying even with closed windows. I can't drive with open windows anymore because that noise is getting to my nerves. This system was a cheap shortcut to satisfy few people. It is not thought through well and absolutely useless. On one side we get penalized for loud muffler and on the other we get noise added to silent vehicles. Does this sound normal to you?!
    The regulation says it should sound an audible alert at speeds up to 18 mph, but my 2020 Clarity screams even at 30 mph. If we need that noise so badly why do not put an engine sound? One will say that having an EV sound like a Camaro is weird. Yes, but making an EV to make a constant noise is also weird. It is 30 years I am in Canada and saw a blind pedestrian 3 times only. I accept that we should somehow alert the pedestrians about approaching vehicle (and not only the blind ones), but not at the expense of the EV owners comfort. If this problem will not be solved in very near future, I will sell my Clarity, because the noise emitted by it is becoming unbearable.
    The only solution I can think of is the dynamic warning system, that will start emitting pulsing or other sounds when a pedestrian is detected nearby. It will be more effective for pedestrian warning and less intrusive for the driver. Our cars are packed with all kind of gadgets including animal crossing, lane keeping and collision avoidance systems. What it will take to have the alert by demand, where the demand is the presence of the pedestrian? The EVs already have front, rear and side cameras, front radar and bumper sensors. Give a teenager a task to create the software utilizing all that hardware and they will deliver a software solution in a week.
     
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  16. jdonalds

    jdonalds Well-Known Member

    Doesn't bother me.
     
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  17. Kerbe

    Kerbe Well-Known Member

    According to Honda, the AVAS cuts-out at 12mph (20kph). If yours is still sounding at 30mph, something is very wrong!
     
  18. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Honda changed the AVAS for the 2020 Clarity. Wikipedia agrees with @ashmtl; NHTSA set the cut-off at 18.6 mph:
    > The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration issued
    > its final ruling in February 2018, and requires the device to emit
    > warning sounds at speeds less than 18.6 mph (30 km/h) with
    > compliance by September 2020...

    If @ashmtl hears the sound at 30 mph rather than 30 km/h, there is definitely something wrong.
     
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  19. ashmtl

    ashmtl Member

    I hear it at speeds up to 50 km/h (30 mph). I think as consumer we have the right of choosing the "noise" type. People have different sensitivity to audio frequencies.
     
  20. craze1cars

    craze1cars Well-Known Member

    It’s been mentioned that according to manual Canadian versions have shut off switch for the sound on the dash? Is this not true?
     
  21. Alex800st

    Alex800st Active Member

    Not anymore, starting 2020 no switch.
     
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  22. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I wonder if any other Canadian Clarity owners also hear the AVAS sound up to 50 km/h? I tried to find out if Transport Canada specified a higher speed for the cut-off of the pedestrian warning noise. From this paragraph in their Planned Road-Safety Initiatives, it appears Canada is aligning with the U.S., so the cut-off should be 30 km/h, not 50.

    Regulatory cooperation efforts (domestic and international)
    It was proposed that the Canadian safety regulations may be amended to introduce Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standard CMVSS 141, Minimum Noise Requirements for Hybrid and Electric Vehicles, to align with requirements in Europe and the United States Manufacturers would be given the choice of complying with requirements of either the United States or United Nations regulation for the vehicles specified in the scope of CMVSS 141.

    The Verge had an article that discussed allowing owners to choose their own sounds.
     
  23. GV Ottawa

    GV Ottawa Member

    The only time I hear it is if driving at low speeds with windows open. I've certainly never heard it at 30-50 km/h. But as ashmtl noted, different people have different sensitivies.
     
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